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November 6, 2008

If there's one theme I'm picking up on in our recent coverage, its the people or teams that most people love to hate. Some videos pass by with just a smattering of comments, some go for over 300. Most of you know I'm talking about Auburn, but they aren't alone in this phenomenon. Last year I made the mistake of posting an article from Kenyon College's website comparing their coach Jim Steen to Vince Lombardi, John Wooden, Casey Stengel and Red Auerbach combined. Hundreds of comments later the dust settled on some serious hate.

If there's one thing that unites these lightning rods, its their success. I've often joked with people that one of my career ambitions is to have people rant on for pages about how terrible I am on an anonymous forum. Then I will know I've really made it.

Consider first the aforementioned Kenyon College Lords and Ladies. By one rubric, championships, their coach Jim Steen is more successful than the coaching legends mentioned were combined. Of course, none of those coaches had two cracks at the title every year and it is impossible to compare professional sports or even Division 1 basketball. Still, its pretty darn amazing that this team, men and women, has won consistently for the past 30 years save for a few hiccups. Just how do they do that?

Well, the haters will tell you that Kenyon cheats. They will tell you that they are abusing a foreign student scholarship program to bolster their team. And its true that Kenyon has been fairly unique in having high finishing foreign swimmers on their championship squad over the past few years, among them Latvian Olympian Andrejs Duda and a pair of distance swimming Canadians in Elliot and Tom Rushton. Other accusations I've heard (of course anonymously) have been allegations of improper financial aid being given to athletes and poor sportsmanship for a cheer they perform predicting themselves as next year's champion after each NCAA meet win. At times their is a tone of academic elitism to comments from people who believe their is something truly special about being ranked top ten in US News and World Report.

Yet, take away Kenyon's foreign born points from the most recent NCAA championship for men, and they are still well ahead of their competition. Year after year, their swimmers always seem to swim with machine like perfection at the most important times. Year after year, they frustrate rivals who appear ready to knock them off (exceptions in the recent past include Emory and Denison women.) They continually have swimmers come seemingly from out of nowhere to make huge contributions. They continually raise and set the bar for performance within Division 3. It can leave even their biggest detractors feeling pretty conflicted about the whole thing.

As for Auburn, despite the fact that their recent string of success was interrupted by Arizona last year, some part of it remained. Through David Marsh's championship run their was one consistent factor: Auburn's sprinters. Though Marsh has departed, their sprinters remain at the top of the heap. They proved as much when after Marsh's departure they destroyed their own record on the way to a 1:23.24 200 Medley relay at last year's NCAA Championship and also won the 200 freestyle relay.

Still, there's plenty of hate for Auburn to go around. Just look at any of the videos we've posted concerning them. Or go on collegeswimming.com to find the multiple pages of a message thread and film analysis declaring that Alexei Puninski went over 15 meters underwater on that 200 Medley relay. Auburn has also been denigrated for tapping foreign well's of talent, although the recruitment of foreign athletes is, ahem, nothing foreign to most but not all of their competitors. Message board posters rail on the academic standard of their university or make claims about fuzzy scholarship manipulation. Are you noticing the theme yet?

The point here is not what's justified and what isn't. I wanted to highlight the dual image of two swimming programs. They are both admired for their success and despised for it. It is likely that it will be this way as long as they are on top. Their choice is simple: to concede defeat to the swirling hate-storm, or keep on doing what they've been doing: win.



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#22
skillet   July 16, 2009 at 3:14pm
"Ben There"......seriously? I think you've been reading a touch too much L. Ron Hubbard lately. Like any coach thats not a milktoast pushover, of course he's going to yell from time to time....that goes with coaching. I suppose your source never talked about the personable side of him, huh? The side of him that opens his house to swimmers, alums, other coaches in a solely selfless manner. So, rather than follow the Fox News approach to blogging, why don't you do some research.
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Ben There   November 17, 2008 at 7:49pm
Steen does cheat. He rants at the admissions staff to let in unqualified students, especially foreign students. He blatantly disregards the NCAA limit on training weeks. But worse than cheating, he creates a fear-driven environment that Kenyon students refer to as a "cult". People who cross Steen become enemies, and are vilified relentlessly. He has no problem screaming at student-athletes like the worst caricature of an Army drill seargeant, demeaning them at the same time he forces them to choose the lesser of two evils. Put up with the demeaning rants, or leave the cult. But there's an anti-Steen bond on the team that keeps the swimmers onboard and keeps them performing despite his pathetic behavior. The Lords win despite Jim Steen's detestible behavior. If it's possible to separate the pure swimming genius that makes Steen a great coach from the pure pathological contempt for any part of humanity that is not in synch with the cult of Steen - then it is possible to say that he is a great coach and that he is worthy of revulsion. If you have to pick a side, then you either reason that the ends justify the means, or you choose a higher standard for "great coach" and demote Jim Steen to the Woody Hayes and Bobby Knight hall of infamy.
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Hutch   November 11, 2008 at 7:34pm
Agreed, success breeds contempt...as an auburn swimming alum, hate on people...I hope we do it again. I think people hate on them because they do it with class and great grades too...jealousy is a b.....
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#19
Dragon   November 9, 2008 at 1:40pm
check out the hate people are dishing on Tennessee.... no need for it
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#18
Mike Clayton   November 7, 2008 at 11:10pm
That forum was intense. I really enjoy your 'Steen slamming' alliteration (just the alliteration part, not slamming him).
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Chris DeSantis   November 7, 2008 at 1:26pm
I basically posted the link and then asked what people thought about it on a message board at D3swimming.com. If you want to see the discussion, look here:

http://www.d3swimming.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=3622
I should have known better and definitely didn't want to open the door for some serious Steen slamming. I have a lot of respect for what he does at Kenyon.
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Mike Clayton   November 7, 2008 at 12:36pm
Chris,

You mention posting the link to the Kenyon site, I'm not interested in the Kenyon article (I've read that) but was that in context of a blog or merely posting the link?
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Ben Dowswell   November 7, 2008 at 11:37am
To James -

I just watched the video. I'm unsure how you can say that he went further than 15m. Unless I'm mistaken, the yellow markings on the rope denote the 15m mark. As I see it, Puninski's head pops out of the water at exactly that point. While his arms may go past 15m, doesn't the rule state that the athlete's head is the determining factor for underwater distance?
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Kenyon   November 7, 2008 at 9:13am
All I can tell you, is that Kenyon has the most kick-ass pool....EVER.

Their team is also really down to earth...if I had 45k a year, I'd totally swim there.
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AU Fan   November 7, 2008 at 9:01am
Who is going to beat Auburn sprinters this year.....I mean Cielo and Puninski are gone, surely this must be the year somebody could beat them. Come on, somebody please step up and call it now....is there anyone out there that can beat them????? I didn't think so either. Bottom is at M, Durdan is at C, Salo is at SC, one of these legendary sprint coaches must be able to put together a team that could beat Auburn. HAHAHAHAHA. NOPE!
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swoo47   November 7, 2008 at 7:28am
there original pool had about 4 or 5 lanes i believe. It's still there on campus as a dance studio or something. It's ontop of quite possibly the steepest hill I've ever walked on.

http://www.forgottenoh.com/Kenyon/ken-shaffer1.jpg
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19.81   November 7, 2008 at 6:55am
puninski split a 19.81 on the relay james
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Coachie   November 7, 2008 at 6:35am
I think people get a little too sensitive about some of these sportsmanship things. I don't think what Kenyon or Stanford do is disrespctful. It is about THEIR team, not against YOUR team. Cheering for a dq'd relay of an opponent, or showing up an individual on the awards stand, calling out a specific team, etc are uncalled for. I just don't have a problem with the counting out. Besides, when was the last time that count-out was wrong?
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James Carey   November 7, 2008 at 5:06am
Chris,

I don't think it's hating on Auburn when you say that Puninski went past 15 m. The video evidence is undeniable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj0jA1GSHR8
Auburn is sweet though.
Odd he didn't go sub 20 for as close as he was the year before.
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#8
William Broch   November 6, 2008 at 10:39pm
That reminds me I'd like to see somebody cover a Kenyon meet or check out a practice over there.
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James Lucas   November 6, 2008 at 10:30pm
If Kenyon's cheating, don't blame Coach Steen. Kenyon started winning back when the enrollment was a couple hundred men: back then, its pool - built in the 1930s with a greenhouse roof - was one of its first athletic facilities. Since 1954 Kenyon’s won its conference meet in every year except one. Its swimmers have consistently gone faster than expected, and consistently earned grade averages in the B+ to A- range. That said, how else can you explain its ability to attract a coach like Steen? No one can be that lucky, right?
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swoo47   November 6, 2008 at 10:09pm
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swoo47   November 6, 2008 at 10:06pm
The tradition at kenyon is unbelievable. There is no cheating going on in Gambier. Take a trip out there and watch the team, see what they do, how they train, and you will understand why they are the best. There facilities will also BLOW YOUR MIND.
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Anonymous Coward   November 6, 2008 at 9:13pm
For Kenyon, it's not the fact that they count off how many titles they've won as Stanford does. It's the fact that they go one step further and count next year's title as well. That seems to ruffle some feathers and for good reason.
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William Broch   November 6, 2008 at 3:27pm
Didn't get to read whole article, but complaining and/or fighting for your favorite or hating are strong emotions which make great media! That means more entertainment which is good for swimming huzza!

Maybe this will help other teams to step up to the level Auburn is at, Arizona, Stanford, Kenyon, etc...
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#2
BigGuy   November 6, 2008 at 12:42pm
If you don't like presumptuous cheers, complain about Stanford counting off how many years they've won the mens Pac Ten title. They do it every year at the end of the meet ( its now must be 20+ years?). Success really does breed comtempt sometimes.
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#1
The Dad   November 6, 2008 at 12:37pm
Chris, obviously if they can't beat them, they hate on them!
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