haha wow uss swimmer you are way too cool. i hope one day to be as fast as you and be able to come to floswimming coverage pages and knock down people that are trying their best, it seems like a lot of fun. no one here is disagreeing with you when you say that USS swimming is on a different level then most ymca teams, but everyone, besides you and a select few really cool people, is able to see that ymca swimming stands for something different then a normal club team.
Torpdeo August 17, 2008 at 9:06pm
US Suck an Egg
Well? August 13, 2008 at 9:08pm
whats your name?
USS Swimmer August 12, 2008 at 5:09pm
Exactly what Mango/Swimfan would do, be a about this and resort to childish games, well congragulations you are offically the biggest and dumassin the world.
USS Swimmer August 12, 2008 at 1:40pm
sorry everyone, i truly suck and i just wanted to let you guys know that i've been lying this whole time just to try and feel better about how slow i am
USS Swimmer August 12, 2008 at 12:12pm
It is quite pathetic that you Americans have such disdain for the truth. If you Swimming Wana bes would just suck up your pride and admit to the truth, your life would be a whole lot easier, but no you go qquestioning others acheivments and act like you are the correct one, talk about a disgrace to your fellow Americans, Mango and Swimfan gadies and gentlemen.
Mango August 12, 2008 at 10:01am
I still dont believe that this jackwad ever was an olympian, no olympian in their right mind would go and post about y nationals and how much the meet sucks, plus they'd have to be Mr.Ego to post their whole life story on here, i still think it just some kid with crap times whose looking to hurt some feelings, but if it really is a Swiss olympian, which I'm 99% sure it isn't, then you, my friend, are a disgrace to your country, as well as the entire swimming community
Swmfan August 12, 2008 at 8:13am
So, now you're trash-talking Phelps? I guess no one is good enough for the former "Swiss Olympic team" wannabe. Phelps was raised by a single mom who helped him channel his ADHD energy into something great. That's inspirational -
Maybe, now that you've hung up your goggles, you could sign up for an English/grammar class or take Dale Carnegie's course, "How to Win Friends and Influence People." Your arrogance and ignorance weren't even entertaining, but the support from everyone else for the great kids who swim (whether it's Y or USS) was excellent.
USS Swimmer August 9, 2008 at 8:21pm
1st Your apology is accepted however in the future don't ruch to sterotypes. I posted on here because I needed to speak the truth and as people can see I did indeed speak the truth as Y swimmers agree with me. The way Phelps acts in front of the camera is totally different than the way he does off. I know this from first hand experience. I am all for promoting swimming with Y programs; don't make such a ibg deal about Y nats because like I said, for the most part it is a crap meet, so why floswimming was there and not at the Open is beyond me. And I am completely sastifyed with my swimming tiems and my performances. I went out there with the very best that this day and age has to offer and I held me own. And my times are still among the best in America, and are pretty much the best for the Swiss. I probably should have trained one more year for the Olympics; but I had goals going into the sport and I accomplished those goals. So I figures that it was time to move on. And no, I went out on my best and that is how ill leave it, I am done with swimming for my life. Those long days of three a day workouts and waking up at 4:30 AM fot that chilly dive in the pool are over for me so is the cheering of the crowd and the support of my family, friends, teamates coaches and country.
Life August 9, 2008 at 7:58am
Ok I see that some of this debate has degraded into a match but my original points stand,USS Swimmer.
Sorry about my assumption that you might just be a hater and not a top athlete in your day, but I just could not imagine a former top athlete "thread crapping" by telling a competitive organization that it is "trash" simply because it is not up to your previous level. Making yourself look good at others expense is not the kind of behavior I would expect by a true Olympian, who is supposed to be an ambassador of the sport and country, not a snob. Note how when Phelps is interviewed he says he is glad to help build awareness of the sport to increase the level of involvement and improve it. He doesn't say "just a note to all you non-USS, sub-Olympic swimmers working your tails off in pathetic programs like the YMCA: don't even bother because you are 'trash' and the goals you are so happy about achieving are jokes." That kind of elitist attitude only drags down the sport. Your "personal best" times are impressive but even you would admit they just wouldn't make the cut compared to those who have actually achieved "being the best." So unfortunately, the platform of logic you presented crumbles underneath you. Being the best in an absolute sense often comes as a result of athletes just trying to beat "their best time" and swim "their race." Listen to interviews after the race and tell me if I'm wrong. Finally, I'd like you to note how even "Anonymous Ccward" gave you your props for your times. That's the kind of class that exemplifies Y swimming. Please accept what we are telling you: that this program is not only about being the best swimmer in an absolute sense, but about doing your best, learning values and working as a team. Now stop thread crapping and go to a USS forum and see how your old times compare there! Good luck at Masters if you decide to do that!
Anonymous Coward August 9, 2008 at 1:53am
agreed. and damn youre pretty fast my friend. sorry for the attack
USS Swimmer August 8, 2008 at 7:17pm
When I offically retired from swimming in 2007, by best times LCM were, 52.93 1fly, 22.17 50 FR, 49.11 100 FR, and 1:01.42 in 1BR. I could swim any sprint except backstroke, so my fly and breast was a very odd combo. And yes, I am not saying all Y teams are "trash" but the majority are. Schr. Y along with the others I mentioned are pretty legit from my knowledge and other coaches experience with them. But, people just think Y nat is so big and bad when it really is a bush league meet for 99.3 % of the people competing. Yes there are the select few .7 % who are legit like colbert, but the rest arnt. And the reason those records havent been broken is the fact that they are so legit, it is a challange for any swimmer to break them because they are held by such notable USS swimmers who seriously traing and competed at the highest level in order to break those records.
Anonymous Coward August 8, 2008 at 1:40pm
also, if uss swimming is so great, why have none of those records you mentioned been broken recently?
Anonymous Coward August 8, 2008 at 1:37pm
im not saying colbert is on the level of crocker or phelps you . no one is. im saying how can you say that ymca teams are trash when they have a guy that goes that fast? think of how many less ymca teams there are then the total number of uss teams. of course there wont be nearly as much quality swimmers when the pool to choose from is so much smaller. and uss swimmer who are you and how fast do you go? i hope your not a slow jabroni who thinks he's sweet because he swims with fast guys.
Swmfan August 8, 2008 at 1:12pm
Never even heard of an Olympic swim team from Switzerland...but I'm sure it would
be 100X easier to latch on to that group than try to make the US Olympic team. One of
the youngest at Olympic trials was a 13 year old breaststoker (Y swimmer). Is the Swiss
swim team friends with that bobsled team from Jamaica? Again, anyone trash talking
fellow swimmers, reflects only the speaker not the great athletes who represented their
Y's at Nationals...
Spectator August 8, 2008 at 1:01pm
Excuse me USS Swimmer most people who swim ynationals are USS registered and participate in both programs. Then again you sound like a sad "never been" at either to me.
USS Swimmer August 8, 2008 at 9:14am
To Annonymous Coward:
So basically what your talking aboout is how young this kid is and that he put up a respectable time, ok well let me give you some history then on some similar uss swimmers,1:53.87 8/7/1997 Ian Crocker, PP-ME 2 FR, 2:02.78 4/2/1998 Aaron Peirsol, NOVA-CA 2BK, 1:04.74 1/1/1994 Anthony Robinson 1BR, 23.52 8/9/1997 Jason Cobb, WTRC-OH 50 FR, 51.59 1/1/1987 Noel Strauss GC-AM 1FR,. Every single one of those swimmers was 14 and swam for USS teams. Every single one of those records is faster, in retrospect to the 100 BR time of Colbert, including the 1:04 100 BR from Anthony Robinson when he was 14, did colbert go that when he was 14, didnt think so. Also, colbert would not have even been the fastest 18&U swimmer at trials with that time in order to become on the World Youth Team, a USS Swimmer was. No please you amatures need to stop it with this ludicrious examples trying to defend your swimming orginzation. You people have very poor debate skills along with swimming ability. Now you can suck on that.
Anonymous Coward August 7, 2008 at 5:03pm
and hes only 16. squat on that uss swimmer
Anonymous Coward August 7, 2008 at 3:16pm
idk will colbert from schroeder ymca went 1:03.79. he's swam at schroder his whole life. but yeah thats not that fast..did i mention that was in the 100 breaststroke
USS Swimmer August 7, 2008 at 1:11pm
To Mango:
You American are sadly mistaken. I swam with a college team here in American as well as the local USS team that was affilated with the college program. Until, you have gone to the olympics and represented your country at the highest level you have absoutly nothing to say about training hard, mainly because you probably don't even have a trial cut and just dream big but have no actual talent to achieve those dreams. Also, YMCAs are a complete joke compared to Open or JRNS because they are much much slower, so how can you say that YMCA teams have the right to compete at USS meets even though they have much slower standards. Because USS swimmers can't swim Y is the fact that USS swimming is far more superior in times, history, and technology to Y swimming making Y swimming inferior to any USS swimming orginazation.
Maybe, now that you've hung up your goggles, you could sign up for an English/grammar class or take Dale Carnegie's course, "How to Win Friends and Influence People." Your arrogance and ignorance weren't even entertaining, but the support from everyone else for the great kids who swim (whether it's Y or USS) was excellent.
Sorry about my assumption that you might just be a hater and not a top athlete in your day, but I just could not imagine a former top athlete "thread crapping" by telling a competitive organization that it is "trash" simply because it is not up to your previous level. Making yourself look good at others expense is not the kind of behavior I would expect by a true Olympian, who is supposed to be an ambassador of the sport and country, not a snob. Note how when Phelps is interviewed he says he is glad to help build awareness of the sport to increase the level of involvement and improve it. He doesn't say "just a note to all you non-USS, sub-Olympic swimmers working your tails off in pathetic programs like the YMCA: don't even bother because you are 'trash' and the goals you are so happy about achieving are jokes." That kind of elitist attitude only drags down the sport. Your "personal best" times are impressive but even you would admit they just wouldn't make the cut compared to those who have actually achieved "being the best." So unfortunately, the platform of logic you presented crumbles underneath you. Being the best in an absolute sense often comes as a result of athletes just trying to beat "their best time" and swim "their race." Listen to interviews after the race and tell me if I'm wrong. Finally, I'd like you to note how even "Anonymous Ccward" gave you your props for your times. That's the kind of class that exemplifies Y swimming. Please accept what we are telling you: that this program is not only about being the best swimmer in an absolute sense, but about doing your best, learning values and working as a team. Now stop thread crapping and go to a USS forum and see how your old times compare there! Good luck at Masters if you decide to do that!
be 100X easier to latch on to that group than try to make the US Olympic team. One of
the youngest at Olympic trials was a 13 year old breaststoker (Y swimmer). Is the Swiss
swim team friends with that bobsled team from Jamaica? Again, anyone trash talking
fellow swimmers, reflects only the speaker not the great athletes who represented their
Y's at Nationals...
So basically what your talking aboout is how young this kid is and that he put up a respectable time, ok well let me give you some history then on some similar uss swimmers,1:53.87 8/7/1997 Ian Crocker, PP-ME 2 FR, 2:02.78 4/2/1998 Aaron Peirsol, NOVA-CA 2BK, 1:04.74 1/1/1994 Anthony Robinson 1BR, 23.52 8/9/1997 Jason Cobb, WTRC-OH 50 FR, 51.59 1/1/1987 Noel Strauss GC-AM 1FR,. Every single one of those swimmers was 14 and swam for USS teams. Every single one of those records is faster, in retrospect to the 100 BR time of Colbert, including the 1:04 100 BR from Anthony Robinson when he was 14, did colbert go that when he was 14, didnt think so. Also, colbert would not have even been the fastest 18&U swimmer at trials with that time in order to become on the World Youth Team, a USS Swimmer was. No please you amatures need to stop it with this ludicrious examples trying to defend your swimming orginzation. You people have very poor debate skills along with swimming ability. Now you can suck on that.
You American are sadly mistaken. I swam with a college team here in American as well as the local USS team that was affilated with the college program. Until, you have gone to the olympics and represented your country at the highest level you have absoutly nothing to say about training hard, mainly because you probably don't even have a trial cut and just dream big but have no actual talent to achieve those dreams. Also, YMCAs are a complete joke compared to Open or JRNS because they are much much slower, so how can you say that YMCA teams have the right to compete at USS meets even though they have much slower standards. Because USS swimmers can't swim Y is the fact that USS swimming is far more superior in times, history, and technology to Y swimming making Y swimming inferior to any USS swimming orginazation.