The UIL Texas High School 4A State Championships

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i actually dont know who mikejonesjr is but good try though.

Just to add on to the end of that convo i saw each member of the fhs team congradulate the hkp team after the 400 f anyone who doesn't think that they were good sports about it

haha alright man

Haha naw fool i like you lol. Im totally down with chilling. just not with all the cops girls lol. i dont really like them. (keep that a secret ahhahaha)

i hope theres no hard feelings between us man. youre a good guy from what i have seen and it would be tight if we could chill over spring break with barrett.

he's the only cool one

Gracias Brendan. If your the brendan im thinking of lol

oh and bill, have fun at school tomorrow and friday ;) haha

guys i know how you all feel, i have been through it and it blows. i moved on and im sure you guys have too. I just wish barrett was comin with us to sectionals so we could make a run at a different team title. you guys swam fast and nothing mikejones says is going to change that.

i actually dont even care how fast they are. they made a total dbag move

haha no doubt. i hope they live in the dfw area.

i bet mike jones and mikejr are the same person being a dbag

yeah man ur my boy. im sick of these b****** callin my team out. they wont stop talkin when they dont know s***

Mike Jones and Mikejonesjr,

What the heck are you talking about? I went up to the KWP guys IMMEDIATELY after the relay and shook their hands and we even gave each other hugs. I dont know what youre talking about but you need to get your facts straight. Ask the KWP guys. We freaking HUGGED each other. Being gracious in defeat does not mean that you cannot be sad. We get up every single morning and train for that very moment, and when your seniors and its your last chance, of course it hurts when you let your team down. and for your information, I wasnt crying for myself. I was sad because one of my best friends had not one yet, Dean Stromme was on the team and did not win. He wasnt on the team the year earlier therefore this was his chance. and we lost. I was more sad for them than for myself. Ive won before, I know what its like to win individually and as a team. they did not. That is why we were sad. Youre telling me that when you let your best friend down and you are part of the reason he does not get what he wanted more than anything youre going to be fine? ya right. Us crying just shows that we were passionate about what we did and it shows how bad we wanted it. The definition of gracious is this: Characterized by kindness and warm courtesy. I am pretty sure hugging the team that just beat you shows that. I am pretty sure clapping for the other team and smiling and congratulating them is just that. Why don't you be a man and put your real name on here. The Frisco High School swim team and alumni are the only ones that have had the courage and were man enough to show who they are on here. you say us crying means were not men? that means we ARE men. It shows how much we cared and we know the value of hard work and dedication and the costs. It shows that we know how much our team wanted it. It shows that we care about more than just us. Heck, if I didnt care about my team, I'd have been perfectly happy with that meet. I split a 25.85 on the medley relay in breast stroke (thats 3rd of 4th fastest in 5A) and I won the state title in breaststroke for the second year in a row. I was happy individually. The reason I cried was for my team. Because I care about them more than myself. Just keep your mouth shut man. Ask any KWP swimmer on the 4 free relay what we did afterward. Dont be talking crap about us man. we didnt do anything to you. and if anything, we gained the respect of that entire swim center by accomplishing what we did and acting how we did afterward.

you knew who i was barrett i got your back

and anyone who knows barrett knows he is a great guy and worked his ass off for his team. whoever is talking s*** better be a f***ing boss bc you dont call a man out like that. that is f***ing low

Are you kidding me? Barrett split like 1.5 seconds faster than he had ever split in his life. 46.3 from a dedicated im'er and 500'er is pretty freaking fast. He was racing an unbelievably talented kid who was swimming his best event. You can say what you want about frisco but you cannot pin us losing on barrett. That's BS.

that last one was me btw

thank u whoever u are. the coward needs to say who he is. he obviously doesnt know anything about this or had the opportunity we have had.

eff you dude, i know how it feels to lose a state title, it happened to me my sopre year at plano west. The same guy dqed two of our relays and one of those relays was by .01. I am not ashamed to say i cried, i worked my ass off to get to that point and we lost it. it sucks and coward obviously has never experienced it.

yeah no i know that u dumb . i swear i am sick of u in people talkin . i knew i blew it. who cares...? we are over it. we have accepted it. do u really think ur a hard ass makin fun of somebody on floswimming how bout u tell me ur in name instead of hiding like a

yeah yeah we know the story frisco came from a huge point deficit blah blah blah....just accept it you guys lost and Barrett blew the anchor leg for you guys

to these people talkin trash about me and the rest of the team let me tell u this. before the race, i went up to the kingwood park relay and shook their hands. we all shook hands and we joked about how the upcoming race was going to be. being a senior and the anchor of that relay, it was really upsetting for me to get touched out. at first it was a shock, then it hit me that that was it. the fact that we cried doesnt talk bad about us, it just shows how passionate we are about the sport and how bad we wanted it. when it came to getting up on the podium and takin the silver medal, of course i didnt want to. but i got up there along with the rest of my team, and we shook their hands. i congratulated them. then when we got up for the team award of course we didnt want to accept the 2nd place trophy, but we did. its normal. and we told kingwood park congrats. they deserve it they really do. so anybody dissing us calling us babies or what F*** you. u dont know s***. u werent there with us. u dont even know what it feels like, to come back from 74 points down at the beginning of the meet and narrow the lead down to 2 before the last relay. WITH 5 GUYS AND 2 RELAYS!!! it was heartbreaking and it would be for anybody. so shut the f*** up. my team (frisco) and swimmers on the kingwood park team have said our congrats to each other thats it. dont talk about my team.

Watch your mouth, Mike. I personally wasn't tearing up but if you try to take ANYTHING away from our seniors, who have worked 4 long hard years only to lose the title after coming so close, because they got a little teary-eyed I am gonna snap. Have you ever watched the super bowl? After the game every time where the losing team tears up? And those guys get paid millions of dollars to play. We are talking about high schoolers here who put so much effort into the sport for no tangible reward, not anywhere near the recognition they deserve, and you're devaluing that because they are the slightest bit emotionally invested into what they've worked so hard towards?

Screw off.

i couldnt agree more, when i saw their seniors crying i lost a lot of respect for them, not exactly being gracious in defeat is it?

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I would've had respect for frisco if they would've taken their loss like men. after that relay, I saw them crying which completely took away my respect for them.

I swim for Wakeland and am in competition with fhs all year round and I have to say I have the upmust respect for every single one of them. This starts at the original state champs (Hal Eubanks, Byron Carslile, the Nix bros, and the list goes on) to the group of guys that fought this weekend. Not to mention the Lombardi of hs swim coaches Bruce Eubanks, who has been nothing but helpful to me over the years. These guys are my boys and are inspiration for me and my team to get better. It was an awesome weekend for me competing, and getting to see fhs and hkp swim. My congrats to hkp on a great meet but everyone has to realize how awesome this fhs team really is.
-Jesse

""Be humble in victory and gracious in defeat." In which we are"- Really - did LBJ come out with all this garb when they got beat last year by u guys. Boo Hoo Hoo! Bunch of babies - You say you're not bashing but u guys r starting to dis the other team - did u go up & shake their hands r tell KP good luck or congrat them when they won the relay- thought not. If anyone is wondering watch the video on flow swimming - Give me a break - coulda woulda shoulda -

The meet is over and both teams accomplished great things. KWP won a blue collar state meet with only one first place a true team victory for the young group. Frisco swam above and beyond what most thought they would. Congrats to all the swimmers and the coaches from both programs you have much to be proud of. Its over now and both teams will be pushing each other in the future making many more state meets exciting and bringing out the best in both programs.

Here is what I think. The Barrett Johansen kid from KWP is a good guy and a great sport. He was the one that on both relays we raced in came up to say good luck and shook our hands. The other swimmers however stayed back. Im not saying the other swimmers are bad sports or y or anything less, im just pointing out what Barrett did. However, when we were in the locker room the morning before prelims, we were changing next to Kingwood Park and one of them said quite loudly (so that we would over hear) "I heard everyone from Frisco sucks." This i do not agree with. I dont know who it was or why they would say that, but I think that is low. I respect the KWP swimmers and their Coach. None of us were bad sports at all. I very much appreciate the people that have complimented us and been respectful; however, to the people that are just bashing us, leave us alone. Please. We all have the highest respect for Kingwood Park and their swimmers. It was a good meet for both of us and we just happened to get the short end of the stick. It happens. I only wish that I could come back next year and swim against you guys again. Congratulations on a great meet KWP. You will never forget the feeling of being a State Champion. And, Coach Eubanks is the most humble person I have ever met. He has 5 rings from swimming. State Coach of the Year, 3 State Championships, and a TISCA Lifetime Achievement Award. He would get mad if he knew I said this, but he has never bragged, not once. EVERY single meet he tells us, "Be humble in victory and gracious in defeat." In which we are. Hopefully this bashing of Frisco ends.

I would suggest 7, but be careful not to leave the couch for more than ten minutes at a time. Studies show this could be near fatal to your heart due to overexertion.
Best of luck

on the seventh day, rest.

2 sisters or 1 sister?

good advice. i think i might go for special olym bowling i might have better chance there. should my weekly training consist of 6 or seven days of sit down Wii bowling?

I just read through that whole conversation. It took me 3-1/2 hours to read the whole thing. All I got out of it was that Hal needs to calm down. And Texasrocks is a beast and is THE SCHWAB of all things swimming related. Also, I believe Kris Jones is the best high school coach. Just look at Jesse Cearley. That is all.

dont worry just bowl 4A its easy to get to state!

whherrreee issss iiii?

anyone know a way i could contact a good coach to help me train to pwn bumper nubs.

Ps. i dont want to be worked to hard my wrist cramps frequently

i dont know buch about swimming but i sure do like arguing. I choose not to do race/ physical sports because i dont like to train which is why i have set out to become the greatest semi pro bowler ever to hit the mid night bowling scene

Dean,
I am not sure who you think has said ugly things about Frisco but I feel pretty confident it has not been KP boys. Our coach probably voted for Coach Eubanks. All year our kids heard about how great your team and coach was. Our coaches teach respect. It was a great meet and hopefully it will be a fun rivalry for years to come. I will say this about our coach - he's a pretty great guy too - he literally took mostly a bunch of summer leaque swimmers - in Kingwood that means the non serious swimmers - not the club swimmers - there is a huge distinction as I am sure you are aware. He worked hard with these kids. We are proufd of them. Honestly I think bloggers are just continuing to stir this up. Here is what my son Keith said about you guys at the end of the meet. "Wow Frisco was freakin fast. They were amazing." Today he told me he wanted to work harder and try to be as good as Barrett Mark. Our kids look up to you guys not down on you. I hope all of you realize this. He would probably be embarassed I shared this but I want you guys to know none of our kids are gloating. They're all pretty good in math and they humbly realize if you had 3 relays it would have been another story.

coach eubanks is possibly the greatest high school swimming coach ever. Since he has been at frisco he has never lost district or regionals and his state record is thus 11, 3, 1, 1, 3, 1, 2 so i say yes he is a great coach and a inspiration to all of his swimmers. H eis a role modle to be looked up to on and off the pool deck and if you read his newspaper articles he is nothing but humble. The one time i think i saw coach at his happiest was when his dear friend coach rogers got coach of the meet, or when his swimmers preform at thier best and are humble in defeat and victory. We have been nothing but congratulatory to all of the kingwood swimmers and i know i look forward to racing tehm again next year. Let me point out though that not once has hal or anyone else singled out a kp swimmer or coach and you all have which is just disgusting in my opinion. I think we all know that kingwood park won and both teams swam great meets. i congratulate kingwood park and all they and there program has accomplished in three years.

coach eubanks is not only a great and wonderful guy but also an amazing coach.i swim for liberty in frisco and he knows how to train swimmers.i knew if i had coach eubanks as a coach i could improve a ton.

i like turdles!

Hal Eubanks- Please stop trying to talk to this guy. Just stop! There is no way to reason with an anonymous coward. Please just stop and end his platform.

Well honestly all you had to do was look at last year's results and know Frisco was going to swim better then the heat sheet. I've been around that block before. By the way the voting for coach was early.

Truth Be Told,

He has gotten the job done three times in the past five years already. He almost brought his team back from 55 point underdogs to make it a fourth.

Here is what Hal said about Kingwood park "Kingwood did have a good meet. I don't buy into this kingwood only having a team for three years nonsense either, that whole area is rich in swimming talent and always has been so that's not very impressive. ... There's no better coach in high school swimming that gets his swimmers up and ready to swim when it counts than Bruce Eubanks. At least he got coach of the year, nobody can argue that he didn't deserve that. Both teams had incredible meets, Kingwood got the championship, but Frisco had a better meet." You could argue Kingwood Park Coach got all three of his relays to State - after all didn't you guys blow that same relay at tisca? So who's the better coach one might argue - the one who gets the job done or the one who could have if only...

You seem to think that my dad goes into every meet thinking he is the favorite and expecting to win. I assure you that every state meet we ever went to, we were down based on the psych sheet, and he really did not expect to win. He simply puts the desire and determination into his swimmers so that they know that if they do what he believes they are capable of doing, they can win. Some of you may not like him for whatever reason, but he has tons of current swimmers, and past swimmers that believe he is a special coach and would do anything for him. So do not insult him.
And the most swimmers that he could have gotten to state was five. He simply did not have the depth of talent to get more than that. It didn't have anything to do with mistakes. It's unfortunate that a relay dq'd, but that's how it turns out sometimes.
Kingwood swam an incredible meet and deserved to win so congradulations to their swimmers, coaches, and parents. It's an incredible experience that you all will never forget.

Truth be Told,

Considering we don't have 11 boys on our swim team it would be tough to get that many to state. And we definitely did see you guys coming (since the week after tisca). And I am struggling to figure out what 'bad choices' we made.
While I admit that there was indignation on our parts early on in the comments, the flow of conversation has since taken a turn towards the 'bash frisco/hal/d2/coach eubanks even if you weren't involved and have no idea what you're talking about' direction, and you can hardly blame hal for standing up for himself.

Truth Be Told,

I respect your opinion. But my Dad told me back around November when I asked him how his season was going and what he thought about state, and he told me that it looked like Kingwood was going to be unbeatable. But you're right, regionals is where they lost it.

Okay Hal let's get real. After all it be time for some Monday morning quarterbacking. The truth is your father didn't see Kingwood Park coming and made some bad choices. It could be noted their coach got 11 swimmers to state - and your dad got 5 through. As for the long ago comment about relays I think that was about region. It's was all over then but the crying.

he did point that out and then delved into areas he should not have. Frisco did great. KP did great. Lots of 5A kids did great. Done.... on to sectionals

Yeah seriously he was just trying to point out what a good job the Frisco boys did to almost come back from so far down. Everyone then jumps on his back, what do you expect him to do?

I'm sorry but could someone inform as to what I have said that would not make my Dad proud? I congratulated the Kingwood boys, and the Frisco boys, both for having amazing meets. I haven't said anything negative about Kingwood at all, and that's what this whole topic is about. People then turned this board into a let's insult Hal board. So of course I respond to those who say stupid things. I probably should have kept my mouth shut about the whole club swimming thing, but that's my own personal experience and opinion.

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This meet was one of the best experiences of my life. All i can say is that it will never be forgotten in my mind, along with all the other great meets won or lost under my belt. Both sides have amazing stories. It was an honor to race against the Frisco boys in a relay event that decides the outcome of the meet. I dont think that there is a more exciting way to fight for a state championship. Frisco, I have the most of respect for you and what you have accomplished to make it come down to the last forth of a second at the most important meet of the year. You are all very nice and sportsmen like and have that desire to win that makes competing so great. As for the seniors, good luck in the next step up in your life. As for the non seniors I look forward to competing against you next year.

Brooks

shut up! sorry hal didn't feel like going through the freakin results like u did! what the hell get a life! we all know how good 5a is. he just mentioned the big time stand outs that people hear about. stop tryin to put down hal on floswimming. get a life. if it gets u a hard on to talk s*** about swimming on this website u have real problems grow the f*** up

hal don't you midterms coming up - go study get or hang out and enjoy college why are you messed up in this conversation

Yeah, the 200 free is struggling in D2. Thanks for the kind words though. I also was only talking about seniors.

hal you are an idiot,

1st thought you were done way to stand firm on that
2nd I think there are a few other D1 candidates - umbach for 1, leonhardt made b cut in 2 free and both are underclassmen 14 and 16 years old. McIntee and Mcbroom will do well in college Harvard and Minnesota thought so several other underclassmen that will be heavily recruited in the years to come. and ...1 Moraes, Daniel North Dakota 1:37.26
2 Jordens, Craig Limestone 1:38.66
3 Golebiewski, Matt West Chester 1:39.19
4 Fanslau, Brendan West Chester 1:39.49
5 Beahan, Grant Henderson State 1:39.51
i think we had a heat of boys going those times at 5a in the 2 free so stfu

not sure what all the fuss is about here but i just wanted to say that frisco is a great team and deserves all the best. to all those out there who has something against eubanks, you need to give it up. he has a great track record and deserves at least part of the credit for his teams accomplishments.

yeah sorry, didn't really scan all of the results, those three are just the ones that I did see that happened to stand out.

dont forget grey umbach baby!

D2 has nothing to do with any of this, but just as a response to you.
D2 top times so far:
100 breast 53.05
100 Free 43.3
50 19.6
200 back 1:45
200 medley 1:28.52
These don't compare to D1, but they are all very fast times. Insult D2 all you want, I could have gone D1 and paid for my school and come out in debt. I realized that I wasn't good enough, put my pride aside, and went D2. Now I graduate in May and am completely debt free. I don't regret it swimming D2, and I don't feel inferior because I don't swim D1. The only high schoolers that stood out to me as someone who would stand out at the D1 level are Cragin, Thompson, and that 5A breastroker. I would get smoked in D1, and unless you are one of those that I mentioned, you shouldn't be talking about how slow any division of college is.
Congratulations to all of the swimmers that dominated at State this year.

i think it's pretty sweet how some of the best frisco swimmers (i.e. the 5 nix brothers, hal, dean, and others) could only swim during high school season and achieve the things they do. everytime i tell u guys on COPS that jared or colin or corey nix never swam club, y'all are just as confused about it as i am.

nah dude i swim for Slake baby! yall would dual us only come to our dragonhunt

whatever don't kill ya makes ya stonger

yeah swim plano see how you do against those evil club swimmers - ask barrett he swims with them

dude not a coward if this is brenden or anybody else that i swim with on COPS shut up haha. we actually didn't win every duel meet we swam this year. why would we swim 5A teams when we are 4A? just doesn't make sense. my coach (Coach Eubanks) is definitely one of the best coaches in this state in both 4A and 5A. don't make him to seem like a coward. he just doesn't want to waste his time with teams we aren't going to see in austin once february rolls around.

i hope that you are kidding about D2 ncaa's...maybe the the top swimmers are good enough for D1 but look at the A cuts. HALF of the A cuts for ncaa's are SLOWER than junior cuts!!!

hal you had a lot of talent, i saw you swim in high school. but really you are getting ready for (D2*) NCAA's.
My high school tried all four years to schedule a duel with your dad and every time he turned us down all to keep his precious duel meet win streak intact. you guys all need to get over yourselves

You shouldn't look at conference, nobody cares and the times aren't fast. The only people in high school that can compare to the top swimmers in D2 at nationals are matt thompson and cole cragin. Nice of you to identify yourself after talking about how badass you are.

This is my last post. I was just going to point out what a great meet frisco had and to congratulate them as well as Kingwood. If you don't like what I had to say, get over it. Some of you didn't like what I had to say and tried to make me sound stupid. Nice try to you, I've been around this sport a long time and happen to know what I am talking about.
To all the Frisco swimmers who may read this, you should know that you made all of us former frisco swimmers proud, more so even than if you had won the meet by a landslide.

hal i saw you swim in high school-you had a lot of talent-but honestly you are getting ready for d2 ncaas*. my times would have won your conference meet as would 95% of all the other event winners at 5A state.
My high school tried all four years i was there to schedule a duel meet with frisco and all four years your dad turned us down bc you didnt want to get your fannies handed to you.

haha you are truly an idiot. I have simply stated facts about the meet, all of which are true. And I have pointed out what an amazing job they did. I'm proud of what they did for my Dad. As for living vicariously through them, I have NCAA's coming up soon, I'm not wishing I could go back to high school.

hal you think you are the s*** when honestly you need to just relax, you need to stop living vicariously through these frisco boys. YOU ARE DONE WITH HIGH SCHOOL SWIMMING get over it

yes i know my 50 backstroke sucks. I'm actually a distance swimmer if anybody got to watch my 500. haha but yeah 50's aren't my thing

So...Brownsville parent, since it has been determined that the relay that was being discussed was not the one that you were talking about and attempted to insult me with, do you know Javier Saenz?

The relay that he was talking about was the 200 medley relay.

Jared Nix split was 48.67 with a relay start, 3rd fastest on relay. Why are you acting like the expert.. Hal..

love,
Brownsville Parent

that is who i meant the fly was ok but the back was terrible

Actually Jared Nix probably had the most impressive split on that relay. Good try though.

wow they beat a crappy 200 medley relay record congrats...the only good splits on that relay were dean stromme's and andrew north's

Both Frisco and Kingwood Park had an AMAZING meet!
Congrats to all teams :)

You talk a big talk for someone who won't put a name behind your words. You better be Cole Cragin because he's the only one at that meet badass enough to be talking trash like that. Especially when it's about a group of guys that smashed the 200 medley record and had a damn good 400 free relay.

north and mark swim club and the scored a ton of points with out them not even in the hunt for a banner

frisco boys glorify the fact that they dont swim club and that is why me and my club swimming buddies love smashing them in races

Texasrocks,

Nobody is whining, myself and everyone else are just talking about what great meets their respective teams had. I said repeatedly that Kingwood had an awesome meet and won it fair and outright. I also did point out that Frisco had an incredible meet and lost it at the end on poor relay starts.
If you are referring to the club swimming issue, that has nothing to do with this meet and is just a side note. It's just my own personal opinion and I don't expect that everyone, or many people for that matter will agree with me.

where is the bashing? I am just responding to the whining. You don't see Plano whining about losing to kingwood even though they stepped up and won the relays. Hal is just out of line and wrong in my opinion.

I know who swims club on frisco and they are some good clubs DM, COPS and they are team oriented

Hal, Good luck to you at ncaa's. You didn't need club you had your dad. Feel blessed. By the way I have long been a fan of Frisco. My best friend moved there a couple of years ago and her son will probably swim there soon. I tell her how great your dad's team is all the time.

And why is that? Because I didn't swim club swimming and don't think it's team oriented? Or because I pointed out that Frisco had an awesome meet?

Hey "Texasrocks" -

Why not post your name instead of some psuedoname if your going to insult others. Aren't you really just another "Anonymous Coward?" I am a proud parent and teacher at KP and proud to stand behind my statements. I appreciate you backing KP, but not at Frisco's expense. The bashing has to stop.

hal sounds like a complete douche-bag

Good try at a subtle insult. But no, why would I make that claim?

hal, you gonna tell us next that oauchita would have one conf if your 200 free relay didn't Deek

it doesn't matter how many kids swam club or not (some may not even be able to hack it) what matters is KP won and they swam well and deserve it - get over it
and I swam club back in the day and went to college and dropped a ton and a good college coach will look at the swimmer and will take the 46 guy with good technique who swam club and maybe not full grown over the 47 non club swimming beast. Bad technique is harder to change the older you get.

Oh and with regards to the other comment below about how frisco is lucky to have all of the club swimming around them. You should get your facts straight too. Of all the good teams that frisco has had, I can count on one hand the number of club swimmers that have been on the team.

Frisco would have won the meet if they had won the relay.

I agree about mind numbing club swimming but to be fair there are a whole new breed of coaches out there and that was the old way of swimming. Yes there are still many doing that but our coach makes it fun and interesting - my son can't wait to get there every time he goes. His coach sets new challenges and has fun sets.
My son has a life and swimming is a big part of that life. He is in the top 4% in high school taking a full load in honors classes. I believe swimming has helped his focus. My son is not interested in swimming the 50 free he loves distances and club swimming helps these kids develop. We held my son back on weights and still have as he was a late bloomer and his illness affected his growth. My son is about 30 lbs heavier then he should be and everyone knows if he dropped the weight he would really excel. So there are a lot of variables for everyone swimming not just club vs. non club. He does not dream about swimming in college it is not one of his goals. He hopes to be a research scientist and cure diseases like meningitis. In the mean time he has many wonderful friends and great experiences as a swimmer both club and high school and we feel truly blessed he is still with us to share this with us.

Add the Points Up,

I have won a couple of these state championships and happen to know a thing or two about "adding the points up." Let's just say that frisco won that relay, they get 40 points and Kingwood gets 34. Frisco was down by two points going into that relay, that means that frisco would have won by 4 points. Get your facts straight before you speak or else you will sound like an idiot.
My post about club swimming comes from my own perspective. I did not swim club because it was mind-numbing and would have caused me to not have a life. I was only a 21.7 in the 50 my senior year of high school, this year at ncaa's i will be a 19 in the 50. That's because i gained the natural strength that comes with getting older and because of the extra training that my muscles were then prepared for in college. And trust me on this...For example, a college coach is far more interested in a swimmer that can go a 47 in the 100 free and does not swim club, than a swimmer who could go a 46 and does.

Sorry I have to defend club swimming. While club swimming may not always be team oriented my son's club coach has been wonderful. When he broke his foot he made sure my son had the proper workouts and worked with his high school coach so not to put too much pressure on him. His club coach told him his focus needed to be his high school meet and not sectionals. As for two a days this is the first year my son has been able to do those about 3 days a week. This has really helped his distance swimming which is what he loves. I am a huge fan of USA swimming. My son had meningitis and almost died. USA swimming has given him confidence and helped him go farther then we thought possible. My son swims with many Kingwood High swimmers in year round and they were excited for K-Park's victory as was my son for theirs. They were texting each other like crazy at the meets. My son tries to be the one who always has everyone laughing and relaxed. Both his high school teammates and his club teammates enjoy his sense of humour and have helped him become a better swimmer. We have never been prouder of our son, he has grown a lot this year and overcome difficult obstacles under the direction and with the encouragement of both Coach McLain and Coach Milak.

i think its funny how you all are saying it came down to the last relay...even if frisco had won the last relay and K-park got second they still would have gotten second to K-park.

Discourging club swimming is foolish, many clubs don't do mindless yardage but work on technique and mental preparation. Kids at 12 and 13 doing heavy yardage is foolish but at highschool time club swimming prepares them for college and able to excel at a DI or top DII, III program. If it weren't club swimming some of you top swimmers would be scoring the big points and we wouldn't even have to hear all this whining. Frisco is lucky to be in 4a and have all the club swimming around them, 5a and you aren't even in the ball game.

Discourging club swimming is foolish, many clubs don't do mindless yardage but work on technique and mental preparation. Kids at 12 and 13 doing heavy yardage is foolish but at highschool time club swimming prepares them for college and able to excel at a DI or top DII, III program. If it weren't club swimming some of you top swimmers would be scoring the big points and we wouldn't even have to hear all this whining. Frisco is lucky to be in 4a and have all the club swimming around them, 5a and you aren't even in the ball game.

Michelle,

I don't think anybody is trying to take away from Kingwood's win. They won it outright and fair and square. I am glad that everyone realizes what an incredible feat the Frisco boys accomplished. In regards to the comment a few spaces below, Frisco's relay starts were pathetic. But so were everyone else's. I couldn't believe how slow every single relay's starts were. For once, I am proud of the Frisco swimmers that came after my generation. They have inspired me. They didn't get it done in the end, they had the heart and the determination, but they just didn't have the 'swim smarts' on that last relay. The Kingwood coach did an awesome job getting his swimmers to overcome all that Teel said they had to. Congratulations to him and his team.
And I said it before, but it is truly a testament to both teams that are able to be this successful with very little club swimmers. I know that my Dad actually discourages club swimming because it is not 'team oriented'. And a word of advice to all the parents reading this....The kids who improve the most in college were not club swimmers, coaches are out there looking for kids who don't necessarily have the club swimming background because their potential is so much greater than someone who has been swimming two-a-days for years already. The exception to this being the kids like Cole Cragin who are just freak shows and will be dominating at the D1 level soon.
On a side note, it is good to see such class and respect among competitors and parents. Believe, me when I tell you that is not the case in college.

As a K-park swimming parent I want to add a few comments.
We have a great coach in Greg McLain. He also thought the Frisco coach deserved the award. He has taught our boys to have a lot of respect for the other teams. The Frisco team was incredible. We will remember this meet because Frisco came and showed our kids how to come back from 50+ points and to not give up but to be there for their team. Frisco had amazing swims you could see their determination. Almost every parent I know at K-park knew Frisco had only 2 relays and 5 boys at the meet. What these kids did was a tribute to their community and to their teammates.
But every team has a story and so does ours. We have no seniors. Coach Mclain took a bunch of summer league swimmers and made it to state with 9 kids plus 2 on relays!
As for Kingwood being rich in swimmers this is true. But at K-Park we only have 3 year round swimmers on this team - my son being one of them. He started swimming at age 12. He hasn't been swimming since he was tiny. Stanton is another year round swimmer but makes it to practice several times a week as he is also a quarterback at K-park. He is just an incredible athlete and that deserves to be recognized also. As a freshman he had a lot of pressure to deliver for his team and he did. Our team also had obstacles to overcome. At region one of our top swimmers had the flu and swam anyway because we needed him. At state our team captain got sick and has battled swimmers shoulder but hung in there and swam an amazing leg in the last relay. Just 6 days before region my son broke his right foot and anyone on the team as well as at region can tell you it was black all over. He had to qualify with a hyperextended broken foot and sprained ankle. He swam in a lot of pain but he knew his team mates needed his swim. It is still broken and he is still in pain. Yes we cleared it with the best doctors before he swam. Throughout all these problems Coach McLain kept telling our sons they could do this. When even I didn't think my son could do it his coach was calmly believing in him. I know Frisco has a great coach but so do we.
In swimming everyone hears about the unfortunate swims and we knew Frisco's DQ at region opened a door for us. We also knew Frisco would close the gap because only 1 of our kids even made it to state last year and being there is a whole other story. We were the new kids on the block.
We are proud of our kids and their accomplishments but we humbly realize they came at a price another team had to pay. I told my son Ryan Sittig seemed like a great competitor when he gave everyone a good luck hand shake before they swam and after. I hope my son can do the same no matter the outcome. For everyone at Frisco my son can rattle off all your swimming statistics as well as Ryan's and others; he thinks you guys are amazing swimmers. You are his role models. We hope we have taught him to respect every swim and swimmer. We encourage swimming for him because swimmers show so much respect for each other. They all know how hard they have to train. So believe me when I say Frisco has a lot of respect from our boys.

Kingwood Park only has 3 swimmers thats swim club and only 1 was on the last relay so you can't say that Kingwood Park only won because of their club swimmers and you can't punish them for wanting to work harder. Also sorry that the Kingwood area is rich in swimmers. It's not our fault and also if you want to compare club swimmers then Kingwood High also has alot more club swimmers than Kingwood Park so if you really want to get picky with that because they won state and people aren't trying to take that away from them.
I think its very rude to try and make Kingwood Park's win seem less than it is.

yeah thats whats up

Coach of the year should have worked on relay starts....

As a Kpark parent, I had the pleasure of sitting not only with the Kpark fans but sat around some of the Frisco parents as well. Let me tell you, not only were the parents classy but you could tell by the actions of the Frisco boys before the 400 relay what a fine group of young men they are. I saw our boys and the Frisco boys shaking hands before the final and you could see the respect each team had for each other. Frisco boys may not have won the title this year but the swam and conducted themselves as true champions in my book. They had their backs against the wall going in and had a truly amazing meet and showed why they were the defending champs. Yes, on paper our KPark boys may have been the favorite but there are no paper champions and Frisco punched us and everyone in the mouth Friday at prelims and thats what champions do. I have to give our Kpark boys credit though for digging deep and swimming under conditions that they aren't accustomed too. The State meet and the pressure that comes along with it can't be simulated so dealing with the pressures and coming through in the end was very special. I'm so proud of all the Kingwood Park swimmers and coaches obviously but my point was to congratulate and tell the Frisco boys team, You swam like champions and keep your heads up.

Ryan- Thanks a ton for the kind words. It really does mean a lot. Best of luck next year at Air Force, I know you'll serve our country well and I thank you for that.

There really isn't much to say about the meet... While I'm disappointed about the team results on the surface, the meet we had really was incredible. When we saw the psyche sheet for state the day after regionals, we all but gave up hope of victory. 55 points is a heck of a lot to make up in a meet we won with 223 last year. We came in with 5 swimmers and 2 relays, but we came in ready. We broke or tied nearly every single school record, the exceptions being the 100 fly/100 back/200 free relay (which we had no swimmers in) and the 100 breast (Hal's a beast, what can I say), and broke the state record in the 200 medley relay by over a second. We scored more points than we did last year with 1 less swimmer and 1 less relay, and in the fastest 4a state meet in history. The fact that it even came down to the last relay in itself is a testament to the meet we had, in my opinion. And it was the race of a lifetime. Both teams gave it their all. I'm sure that if that race had taken place 10 times we would have split it 5/5, but all that matters was that KP showed up and won.
My only regret is that in the end, all that is remembered is the final result; the almost herculean effort put up by my team will be forgotten by all but those who experienced it firsthand. Coach Eubanks getting coach of the year really does make me feel a lot better, because I have never experienced in my life an entire team having such an incredible meet when it mattered. Not a single swimmer went through the meet without achieving a lifetime best time.
I have the utmost respect for KP, you guys were great sports after the meet. My only goal in writing this is to attempt to illustrate that this meet was more than the 237-229 final result, and that I could not be more proud of the effort the Frisco Boys Swim Team put up last weekend. I will never forget the 2009 4A State Meet, and neither will anyone involved on either team.
RTA boys.

Hal -

Sorry, I missed the earlier posting about Bruce being your dad. Congrats on having such a fine coach as a father. You're right about the Kingwood area being rich in swimming talent. I think I'm personally excited because unlike 5A Kingwood High, most of our swimmers are only summer league swimmers, which is exciting to see such talent from "non-club" swimmers. I hope you, your dad, and his team understand KPARK's excitement and pride and don't mistake it for anything else. This is a super classy school and the kids are taught honor and character come FIRST - I appreciate the posts and again, congrats to you, your dad, and the Frisco family. :)

Melanie,

Yes, I made it clear in an earlier post that Bruce Eubanks is my Dad. Kingwood deserves credit and they did win the meet outright. But you simply cannot argue that they had a 'better meet'. It's a credit to both teams that they do not have very many club swimmers. If you look back at all of the great teams frisco has had, you won't find very many club swimmers. But like I said, the kingwood area has always been rich in swimming talent so the whole thing about not having a team very long is not very impressive.

I meant to say Kingwood Park.

I've swam against Frisco for the past 4 years and they beat us by 3 points for the team state championship last year, which also came down to our last relay. There is not a classier team in 4A than Frisco. Kingwood really deserves a lot of credit too because of what they have accomplished in such a short time. I hope the state meet next year is just as exciting as it was this year.

-Ryan Sittig

Is it a coincidence that your last name is the same as Frisco's Head Coach? KPHS has only had a team for 16 months. Whether these kids have swam before or not is irrelevant. Some have swam in the summers. 3 have swam year round. As a team, under their coaches, they have swam for 16 months. I still think that you are not being fair to respectful to the job that was done and again, that represents a sore loser, in my opinion. We can all sit around and argue the "what ifs" in life, but at the end of the day, it's the "WHAT IS" that matters.

Again, congratulations to both teams. I look forward to seeing this year's KPHS freshmen compete for another 3 years. Good Luck to you leaving seniors of Frisco.

Kingwood did have a good meet. I don't buy into this kingwood only having a team for three years nonsense either, that whole area is rich in swimming talent and always has been so that's not very impressive. That being said, they came in as 55 point favorites based on the psych sheet. Frisco only lost by 8 points. And with a 200 free relay they would have won by 32. There's no better coach in high school swimming that gets his swimmers up and ready to swim when it counts than Bruce Eubanks. At least he got coach of the year, nobody can argue that he didn't deserve that. Both teams had incredible meets, Kingwood got the championship, but Frisco had a better meet.

Nobody wins by luck alone... Kinwood Park is a first year highschool who has worked just as hard as anyone else. The fact that Frisco DQ'd their relay at their region meet wasn't KP's fault. Our boys were amazing and deserved it every bit. We have no seniors, so we'll be forced to reckon with next year when we do. See ya'll at the blocks ;)

Only sore losers talk smack. Congratulations to both teams on a great meet and to Kingwood Park for coming out with the victory after only having a pool for 16 months. They represented themselves very well and have a lot to be proud of. Everyone has their day, and yesterday was Kingwood Park's day. It looks like 4A swimming has a new rivalry.

oh and were Kingwood Park.
not Kingwood btw.

Anonymous Coward:
Frisco had a great meet and did an awesome job. and its sad that the senior didnt get their state ring, but kingwood Park has been working for this ever since we opened 3 years ago. we had one guy make it last year and no girls. the fact that the guys team can go from 1 guy to 12 is awesome. and instead of saying that we didnt deserve it you should be a good sport and recognize that we had a great meet and deserved every bit of that championship.

How does the fact that KP has only 3 club swimmers lend to the argument that it was hard work that won them the championship? That's nearly as many swimmers as Frisco even had at the meet. It's a shame that they didn't have a 200 free relay, and that they only had 2 swimmers in full body next-gen suits both in total and on that last relay. I would like to see a rematch of that 400 free relay where either KP has 2 kids in worn out fs2 jammers or Frisco has all 4 kids in B70's or full body LZR's.

plano might have had three swimmers who qualified for their state meet but they were also three strong club swimmers. they also had all three relays full of strong club swimmers. you cannot compare the frisco situation to what plano had.

i'd like to see kingwood win that meet when frisco has the 200 free relay. i'd say it's luck for kingwood that Frisco didn't have that relay.

Kingwood PARK is a brand new school with no seniors. These guys have come a very long way in a very short amount of time. Only three of these guys are club swimmers and KP earned a well deserved state title. Frisco had a great race and had great races all day, but you mean to tell me that Kingwood Park's win was just by luck? No way, dude. Hard work, more like it.

it is not about points per swimmer it is about how many points
and while frisco swam great with what they qualified Kingwood won period. Plano could have cried too with three swimmers in individuals but they just went for it. Frisco be happy with second they were alot of other teams that did worse.

Highland Park had 3 seniors that scored, their streak of state championships is over

Frisco High School Boys are the true champions. They had 5 boys and only two relays. They almost beat a team with 12 boys and all three relays. Kingwood can celebrate for now, but everybody needs to realize who the best team really was there.

converted times dont factor in the kickouts...which cole killed...it also doesnt factor nerves...i can imagine him being a little scared before an olympic final

I know that he probably that he wouldn't have gotten second, but he also has 3 more years is what i was getting at. Great swim and hopefully we can see more out of him.

Don't convert... it's bad for your health. it's apples to oranges. Cole had a awesome swim, and he's an awesome swimmer, and a great guy.

but to say that he would have beaten Matt Greevers for the silver... don't think so.

Cole Craigin's converted time would have been 53.09 and that would have been second behind Aaron Piersol at the 2008 Olympic games. Congrats

congats forrest hughes on two gold 50 & 100 free 4a state

Good luck Texas High School. Congrats to Cole Craigin in the 100 yard backstroke with a new national record.

My Dad, Bruce Eubanks, is trying to lead Frisco to its fourth championship in five years. It would be the first time anyone has ever won with only two relays. They have to overcome Kingwood though

Gotta love Kingwood Park. They are in their second year as a high school and don't even have seniors yet. This year has been amazing-watch out next year. Go Panthers!

Thanks for help finding the seeds for today's meet. Best wishes to all the amazing swimmers - and a little extra luck for my Kate!

go to ut swimming site .click on results will give u seeds for today

i rocked that pool

4a results:

http://www.uil.utexas.edu/swimresults/4Aresults/

Is a list of heats for today with qualifying times available anywhere? Thanks for a great site! My daughter has just recently gotten into swimming and look at her go! Swimming in the state meet!

frisco set a state record in the 200med boy relay and is seated first

Sorry Andy, we only cover swimming events... If you know someone who could help out and cover the diving, they could always post it on this page.

When is diving going to be up

Thank you very much, Ms Oakes, for clarifying that for me. The best of luck to all of you! I'm new at this, so at least my wife is getting to see it first hand. Our grandson, Ben Watlington, is with the Aledo High School Swimcats, I believe, and we are soooooooo proud of him! Can you tell? Thanks again, all!

what about diving

what about diving

My daughter swims with Ian LeMaistre and Zach Ogle, & Cameron Cuda all from Alamo Heights High School

Thank you so much for the coverage. We are at PAC-10's watching our daughter who is a senior and we couldn't miss it but are dying to see how our son did. It's heart breaking not to be there :( so thank you for covering it for us!!!

Be patient all... videos will be up later. 5A prelims are up, but they were the morning session. 4A is afternoon session, so it might be later tonight before they are uploaded.

Ms Oakes: Which swimmer are you talking about, swimming with your daughter? Our Ben Watlington? I'm sorry, my wife and his parents are there. I don't travel well, and I can't seem to bring it up on my computer, at least not the right ones.

Actually, I'm just a good friend. :) But he swims with my daughter on a club team.

I can't see any information indicating that there is 'Streaming Video'. Everything that I've read gives me the impression that they will be videotaping the events and then posting them on this website for later viewing. I'm disappointed too as I am in California as well and have a niece swimming in the 200 and 400 relays in 4A.

Thanks Mrs. LeMaistre

Mad I can't get the streaming video to work - but cheering my brother Matt Korman on from California!

Looking for my grandson, Ben Watlington, who is with Aledo High School, qualified in 4 events

Everyone should be watching Alamo Heights, freshman, Ian LeMaistre. He is one of the best swimmers in 4-A and will wow the crowds this weekend, I'm sure