Backstroke Start Work, With Guy Barnea

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US  ⋅  Oct, 28 2008   |   Coverage created by Garrett McCaffrey


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About Guy Barnea 

Organization:University of California
Current School:University Of California-berkeley
Bio:
National Team Success • Redshirted the 2007-08 collegiate season to train for the 2008 Beijing Olympics • Swimming for Israel, Barnea placed 16th in the 100-meter backstroke in the 2008 Beijing Olympics…
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#32
Stepchildren   October 7, 2009 at 10:49am
Jay said:
I agree I think even peirsol was blown away! I cant think of another
hundred race that someone is so far away from the curve.That guy is really
strong now ..and those legs of his are his weapon.
ha ha ha Guy takes a 14inch from Peirsol
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#31
Usd Fans   January 16, 2009 at 9:40pm
gibor ya hamud
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#30
Kyle Casias   January 3, 2009 at 3:06pm
I believe the start where your body is leaning back is better for different body types. if you have longer arms then you can set up an explosive leg position while still leaning in the direction of where you want to enter the water. the point of leaning back is to create the shortest line from your start to when you enter the water. record your start and find out if the hips are travelling a shorter distance from the start to the given jump length (not the water) or if it is in fact better for you or your swimmer to start in a more upright position.
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#29
Max Jaben   November 28, 2008 at 9:12pm
used roids though
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#28
Interested   November 25, 2008 at 9:24pm
do these guys at the big D - I schools do workout time & individual one on one time with their coaches? or is this just shot for flo? i guess when you are that good you get anytime you can. and you dont want to spend the time in workouts working on starts, turns, etc.
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#27
Depends   November 25, 2008 at 9:17pm
it all depends on who you are and what your strength is whether you go for initial speed or reaction time. some guys have incredible power, but are not that quick to react to the starter. some guys can blast off the wall with such incredible power, they can make up for the couple tenths they lose in reaction time. some guys have to rely on reaction time because they might not be as powerful.
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#26
Rob Bond   November 20, 2008 at 9:28am
This starting technique opens up a major question with starts.

What is more important: reaction time or initial speed?
I personally think initial speed is more important. Swimmers cannot generate the power and efficiency to create the same speed swimming that they can pushing from a wall or diving in. Everyone slows down from the speed they begin their race with. Isn't it better to have great initial speed to slow down from rather than a quicker reaction time?
Guy admits he thinks the start is less powerful. Is this a better start?
My current coaching credentials certainly don't compare with Dave Durden, so I am curious to hear what some other coaches think.
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#25
Anonymous Coward   November 10, 2008 at 1:37pm
When you do these technique demos, can you add a slow motion version of the demonstrations?
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#24
Yarin Dicapua   November 8, 2008 at 3:32pm
True
but Guy's Top result was to qualify first to a Europian final in 50 back
For now, I haven't seen Nimrod getting such an acheivment
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#23
Indoboy   November 8, 2008 at 1:03pm
what about Nimrod Shapira Bar-or?? He also swam for Israel in the last olympic and actually made into semifinal in the 200 free.

ps: he is only 19 years old.
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#22
Yarin Dicapua   November 8, 2008 at 7:46am
I Agree with Ido,
Guy Barnea Is the best Israeli swimmer ever.
better then Max Jaben if you ask me too
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#21
Jay   November 7, 2008 at 11:43am
I agree I think even peirsol was blown away! I cant think of another
hundred race that someone is so far away from the curve.That guy is really
strong now ..and those legs of his are his weapon.
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#20
Backstroker Two   November 7, 2008 at 11:11am
whatever peirsol does he does half a second faster than anyone
else in the world! I still cant get over that time!!
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#19
Backstroker   November 6, 2008 at 9:27pm
peirsol doesn´t do it, at leat he didn´t at beijing...but lochte does and he is very fast to 15m
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#18
David Kaufman   November 6, 2008 at 2:15pm
Are his toes curled over the gutter? Is he doing a legal start?
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#17
Chris DeSantis   November 6, 2008 at 2:03pm
Yes. Much better than Max Jaben. Too soon?
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#16
Ido Alpern   November 6, 2008 at 1:01pm
Guy is the best israeli swimmer!
nice video!
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#15
Gibor   November 5, 2008 at 7:23pm
ani chnun
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#14
Chris Villa   November 5, 2008 at 12:55pm
any video anywhere of peirsol doing it?
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#13
Jon Lau   November 4, 2008 at 11:06pm
peirsol definitely adopted this start by studying tomomi morita's start
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#12
Kyle Morrison   November 4, 2008 at 8:14pm
lochte actually doesnt do it, peirsol does
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#11
Mike Shelby   November 4, 2008 at 8:00pm
Everyone does it because people started watching Morita 4-5 years ago, and seeing how fast he was to 15m. Now, his underwater kick is good, but his start was/is really fast as well.
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#10
?   November 4, 2008 at 7:56pm
how does the best backstroke swmmer in the world aaron p enter?
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#9
D   November 4, 2008 at 7:01pm
Lochte does it too.
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#8
Ahelee   November 4, 2008 at 6:40pm
Kevin Perry is quite famous here in the Orange County of California for the program he built in Fullerton.
He is really missed by many.
I appreciated the message below recognizing Kevin's great technique coaching offered before its time.

And tomorrow? I'm gonna try out that cool backstroke start!
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#7
Kevin Perry   November 4, 2008 at 5:48pm
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Cashis   November 4, 2008 at 11:49am
good clip!

many variations of this start...
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#5
William Broch   November 4, 2008 at 11:24am
Yeah Tamomi Morita was blowin people away on the start for a while there.

Who is Kevin perry?
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#4
Coach   November 4, 2008 at 10:47am
The Japanese guy they are referring to is called Tomomi Morita.
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#3
Practicing   November 4, 2008 at 10:19am
How else can someone learn something new.....Good practice shots and I'm hoping he doesn't ever need to wear a neck brace from all the work he is putting his neck muscles through! Hope Kevin Perry knows folks are patterning after his style.
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#2
Kevin Perry   November 4, 2008 at 9:40am
Kevin Perry was teaching this for fifteen years...Too bad he never got recognized for it....
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#1
William Broch   November 4, 2008 at 9:20am
suh w33t. I like the new start myself! Look for swimnetwork or swimmingworld to copy soon...
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Backstroke Start Work, With Guy Barnea

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Guy was working on his backstroke start with his coaches after practice in late October. This kind of vertical position when swimmers take their mark is becoming more and more common amongst backstrokers.
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