Brett Hawke A 2-time Olympian for Australia, Brett was a 17-time All-American at Auburn in the late '90s. In his second year as the sprint coach at Auburn, his work speaks for itself. This year one of… + See More +
Brett Hawke A 2-time Olympian for Australia, Brett was a 17-time All-American at Auburn in the late '90s. In his second year as the sprint coach at Auburn, his work speaks for itself. This year one of… + See More
A 2-time Olympian for Australia, Brett was a 17-time All-American at Auburn in the late '90s.
In his second year as the sprint coach at Auburn, his work speaks for itself. This year one of Brett's swimmers, Cesar Cielo, set the NCAA record in both the 50 and 100 freestyle.
YO my boy MP! Is going to BOCKA BOCKA in the 100m free son! Who cares what he does in bench. He is going to do the 200 100 free 3 relays 200 im the 100 fly 200 fly. and get 7 GOLDS maybe 8 on how the 4X100 and my boy NA is KILLEN it. one word WALTERS!
bigpants said: “There is a bit of a catch with the straight arm catch you probabaly have to be able to bench around 300 pounds to pull it off. What im trying to say is you only see the huge guys like Cielo, Bousquet and Bernard if you ever watch eamon swim he swims straight arm but his catch is high elbow. This might be why Phelps hasent seen the results that the other big guys have because he just is not as strong.”
There is a bit of a catch with the straight arm catch you probabaly have to be able to bench around 300 pounds to pull it off. What im trying to say is you only see the huge guys like Cielo, Bousquet and Bernard if you ever watch eamon swim he swims straight arm but his catch is high elbow. This might be why Phelps hasent seen the results that the other big guys have because he just is not as strong.
fingertips first seems like a good way to focus on not rotating the arm in before the arm is far enough out in front. I have been working on this technique to try it out and notice that my hand is crossing over the midline when it enters if I start rotating my hand in before it is extended out in front. Also, it feels like my elbow and arm are hitting at the same time as my hand, so it is noticible to feel the hand entering before the rest of the arm to have the arm enter and not cross the midline... if that makes any sense. Good video aside from my mumblin'
this is true, garret has offered to come see our team, which is small, but i think were just going to do our own video and send it in, honestly it takes a little effort to shoot your own video, and most people are just too lazy (or just dont have the time) to fool with it, but hopefully we will get one together eventually
BulletBlue said: “I have heard that many teams request floswimming to come see some stuff and Garrett says no. I think it would be neat to see "mid range, meaning not top 10" teams compared to the top teams. The teams that people feel are doing great for what they got, or how much they have improved.”
You heard wrong. I can only go where I'm wanted, and I have never said no to any team. Scheduling and travel expenses are the only thing that could possibly get in the way of team coverages. Please enlighten me with what teams I've said no to?
I have heard that many teams request floswimming to come see some stuff and Garrett says no. I think it would be neat to see "mid range, meaning not top 10" teams compared to the top teams. The teams that people feel are doing great for what they got, or how much they have improved.
The whole straight arm concept reminds me of the development of the "wave" stroke in breaststroke. It has been interesting to see breaststroke transition from the "flat" to the "wave" stroke...
Bousquet 21.64 and Cielo 21.65 in Canet. Another 1-2 finish for Hawke and Auburn. Just another reason why he is the best in the world. Need more proof???? Wait till Rome!
just so y'all know -- brett was a 100m backstroke state record holder at 17 years and also represented his country at elite level for 50 fly.
He walks the walk
mark g 27.87 in 50 br finals
what been readin bit cold weather there in barca...
zueva 27.87 in finals, 27.47 WR in 50 back...
lauterstein 51.77 in 100 fly, 2nd in AUS All time, 51.12 his own PR and nat.rec.
results : http://www.natacio.cat/cat/seccio/veure/302
It wasn't too long ago people were accusing the site of being a Texas recruiting website. Get over it, Garrett can only cover people that are willing to share. That is why the ridiculous, attacking comments that many times accompany these posts should be immediately deleted. Is someone is willing to share, we should treat it as a valuable gift.
Peter_Galick said: “I'm not taking anything away from Bottom at all, his body of work internationally at the Race Club is unmatched, culminating with the top two spots in the 50 free at both the 2000 and 2004 Olympics, not to mention his work in Berkley. Hawke probably learned quite a bit from him during his Race Club days. Arguing who is better is pointless.”
Mike Bottom never coached Brett Hawke...not even once
Just my two cents on is Hawke real or something... it is must easier to develop fast swimmers than develop "already insanely fast swimmers" to even insane levels of performance or even stay in that already insane level of performance...
Bottom has done good things on his own right. Now Brett has some results to prove that he knowns something about sprint freestyle also... and as Mark G´s move to his team shows, swimmers also trust him...
Jon Lau's post highlights an important article that everyone who watches this video should read.
The article is about Janet Evans and Inge Debruin, who both used a "Windmill Recovery" to set World Records in the 50, 100, 400, 800, and 1500 Freestyles (not to mention the 100 Fly) between 1988 and 2000.
But their strokes are not to be confused with the strokes Freddy Bosquet is using, and Gary Hall used -- with much success. The strokes of Freddy and Gary stay straight arm through the catch and for the most part through the pull, compared to the strokes of Janet and Inge who were straight arm on the recovery but bent arm high elbow underwater.
Muscular men have an easier time keeping the "straight arm" going all the way through the pull, while most women don't have the sort of strength to do that -- so they get the benefit of the hip snap and the easy swinging recovery, but they don't have to put Umph into the first part of the stroke as much as the men which is one way to screw up a shoulder.
It's definetely a speed stroke when you're going straight arm underwater.
This is awesome. i am college swimmer who was recruited for distance swimming, but i came around as sprinter and backstroker this past season. its tough switching from almost a ketchup stroke to a straight arm stroke, but with each video i see, it gives me a better understanding of it.
I'm not taking anything away from Bottom at all, his body of work internationally at the Race Club is unmatched, culminating with the top two spots in the 50 free at both the 2000 and 2004 Olympics, not to mention his work in Berkley. Hawke probably learned quite a bit from him during his Race Club days. Arguing who is better is pointless.
Dolphin Secret? said: “Bowman and Phelps kept underwater dolphin a secret? Wow. What a ridiculous statement. Re-inventing swimming? Apparently you've never heard of David Berkoff who revolutionized underwater kicking in the 1980's? Bowman and Phelps kept UW a secret. HAHAHAHAHAH!”
I totally agree. Also, in Phelps' book he said that Ian Thorpe's dolphin kick in the 200 free was revolutionary. Phelps/Bowman managed to keep the fact that Michael's dolphin kick is out of this world good for a while, but they did not keep the concept a secret at all.
wow that really helped me a lot. i have been trying to change with my stroke from bending elbow to more straight arm recovery. it feels really better and man it glides like crazy haha.
Bar none Bottom is the GREATEST sprint coach of all time. Fred/Cesar were both insanely fast before Hawke (Fred had already broken the WR scm). Adrian, Ervin, Kizerowski (among others) were all developed by Bottom. A guy named Gary went pretty fast under Bottom as well.
I love Floswimming! What a great resource for the swimming community. I hate to look a gift-horse in the mouth, but, it would be awesome to see an underwater view when getting pointers from Hawke Talk and other instructional features.
Thanks for all the work you put into this great site.
Tristan Vowles said: “The reason Phelps was able to blow away the world with the underwater dolphin kick was because Bowman and himself kept it a secret. If Phelps/Bowman had been blabbing about it the whole way, people would have caught on. If you had the chance to be the best in world by re-inventing swimming, would you take it?”
Bowman and Phelps kept underwater dolphin a secret? Wow. What a ridiculous statement. Re-inventing swimming? Apparently you've never heard of David Berkoff who revolutionized underwater kicking in the 1980's? Bowman and Phelps kept UW a secret. HAHAHAHAHAH!
I've been thinking about Bottom vs. Hawke for a while. While Bottom is probably the greatest sprint coach of all time, Hawke has the 2008-2009 greatest sprint coach crown. You're right, both are amazing, but Bottom currently has no big sprinters at Michigan. (But then again, he has some of the best swimmers in the country in the forms of Tyler Clary and Peter Vanderkaay.)
It's sort of a pointless discussion as both Bottom and Hawke are fantastic coaches. Bottom has 2 Olympic champions as well as the current american record holder to his credit. Hell, i'd love to have either of them as my coach.
Serioulsy i think he has credentials to be best sprint coach in the world, olympic champion and world record holder side by side sounds pretty good doesnt it? Bottom is also amazing but come on
Of course it would be Sprint Free Stroke, what else will Brett talk about? Backstroke Breastroke, absoutly not, and hardly even Fly. And in regards to Peter Galick or something like that, BOTTOM IS THE BEST SPRINT COACH IN THE WORLD.
John Gullotta said: “The Straight arm that Brett is talking about is the underwater pull correct? Not so much the recovery, as has been the ideas in the past. I understand that Fred B uses a more straight arm recovery, but it is to enhance his straight arm underwater pull. Cielo uses a classic recovery to get into his under water pull, correct? And does this use more energy so we see it more in sprints as opposed to the 200 and up where a high elbow is a little more efficient over long distances?”
They were talking about the underwater pull.
You are also correct with Fred and Cielo's recovery.
My assumption would be that it requires more energy when done correctly because of the amount of water trying to be held through the whole stroke. The high elbow is more efficient with longer races is because it does not require as much power. That is the comparison between power and efficiency because in the long run when the power runs out so does the efficiency.
Uneducated Flip Flops Retailer June 4, 2009 at 11:05am
Lol. Hey, Come On Now, I confess. I am no swim expert, I "sell shoes", all right?
I meant Bob's technical vids with his swimmers not his interviews solo. I did hours of research on the web and didn't find anything consistent outside the official DVD releases, but I could be uneducated at googling too. Link me to the information you mentioned. I'd be more than elated to see it!!
But to answer your question, Tristan. Oh yeah I would!!! ;)
Of course, the big secrecy surrounding the "We" Golden Team (Michael rarely uses "I" when it comes to talk technique and strategies) was a big part in their unprecedented planetary success. I only regret that we never find anything on Floswimming or anywhere else btw, featuring Bowman outside his interviews. I know he isn't into computers and blogging, but a little kick set or drill vid for the fans never compromised anyone.. but I could be wrong.
Whoa there anonymous coward...
"Lets be honest here underwater kicking was not a secret. Bob Bowman and Michael did nothing innovative with the underwater kick, rather, they only perfected it. Bob Gillet and Misty Hyman were the first to truly utilize the effects of the underwater kick on an international stage"
Rick Carey had a great underwater dolphin kick and David Berkoff and Joe Bernal are the reason why the 15 meter rule was instituted. Berkoff was swimming 100 back at 70 meters underwater. Gillet and Hyman tweaked it to a side kick.
Just giving credit where it is due.
Lets be honest here underwater kicking was not a secret. Bob Bowman and Michael did nothing innovative with the underwater kick, rather, they only perfected it. Bob Gillet and Misty Hyman were the first to truly utilize the effects of the underwater kick on an international stage.
Michael is a tremendous athlete (with serious natural talent and a strong work ethic) that approaches races in innovative ways (i.e. staying underwater longer than most), but it had been done before by several other swimmers.
Clarification Please: The Straight arm that Brett is talking about is the underwater pull correct? Not so much the recovery, as has been the ideas in the past. I understand that Fred B uses a more straight arm recovery, but it is to enhance his straight arm underwater pull. Cielo uses a classic recovery to get into his under water pull, correct? And does this use more energy so we see it more in sprints as opposed to the 200 and up where a high elbow is a little more efficient over long distances?
Flip Flops Retailer said: “Alright, alright. I won't complain about sound quality and "offend" Schmoka, Peter and The Dawg again, because yes, these Hawke talks are great. And his generosity is priceless.
Too bad coach of "american super star who has recently decided to focus on some sprint free events" isn't willing to share his own insights on new stroke FOR FREE. Just saying.”
The reason Phelps was able to blow away the world with the underwater dolphin kick was because Bowman and himself kept it a secret. If Phelps/Bowman had been blabbing about it the whole way, people would have caught on. If you had the chance to be the best in world by re-inventing swimming, would you take it?
Flip Flops Retailer said: “Alright, alright. I won't complain about sound quality and "offend" Schmoka, Peter and The Dawg again, because yes, these Hawke talks are great. And his generosity is priceless.
Too bad coach of "american super star who has recently decided to focus on some sprint free events" isn't willing to share his own insights on new stroke FOR FREE. Just saying.”
What an uneducated comment. Bowman has been willing to share information for years - to the point that at last year's ASCA Clinic in Vegas, he spent almost an hour writing sets on the board that Michael did between 04-08. He's been interviewed by Garrett a number of times and has always been willing to share. Do some homework. Just saying.
Alright, alright. I won't complain about sound quality and "offend" Schmoka, Peter and The Dawg again, because yes, these Hawke talks are great. And his generosity is priceless.
Too bad coach of "american super star who has recently decided to focus on some sprint free events" isn't willing to share his own insights on new stroke FOR FREE. Just saying.
In Episode 2 Brett talks about the sprint freestyle stroke that has become the buzz in swimming... again. The straight arm free. He compares two of his world class sprinters to an american super star who has recently decided to focus on some sprint free events. June 3, 2009
The Sprint Free Stroke
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“There is a bit of a catch with the straight arm catch you probabaly have to be able to bench around 300 pounds to pull it off. What im trying to say is you only see the huge guys like Cielo, Bousquet and Bernard if you ever watch eamon swim he swims straight arm but his catch is high elbow. This might be why Phelps hasent seen the results that the other big guys have because he just is not as strong.”
“I have heard that many teams request floswimming to come see some stuff and Garrett says no. I think it would be neat to see "mid range, meaning not top 10" teams compared to the top teams. The teams that people feel are doing great for what they got, or how much they have improved.”
Wait, they are using the new list in Canet? My bad.
He walks the walk
mark g 27.87 in 50 br finals
what been readin bit cold weather there in barca...
zueva 27.87 in finals, 27.47 WR in 50 back...
lauterstein 51.77 in 100 fly, 2nd in AUS All time, 51.12 his own PR and nat.rec.
results : http://www.natacio.cat/cat/seccio/veure/302
Bousquet 5th with a 49.26
The 100% Polyurethan suits are not allowed in this meeting.
“I'm not taking anything away from Bottom at all, his body of work internationally at the Race Club is unmatched, culminating with the top two spots in the 50 free at both the 2000 and 2004 Olympics, not to mention his work in Berkley. Hawke probably learned quite a bit from him during his Race Club days. Arguing who is better is pointless.”
Bottom has done good things on his own right. Now Brett has some results to prove that he knowns something about sprint freestyle also... and as Mark G´s move to his team shows, swimmers also trust him...
The article is about Janet Evans and Inge Debruin, who both used a "Windmill Recovery" to set World Records in the 50, 100, 400, 800, and 1500 Freestyles (not to mention the 100 Fly) between 1988 and 2000.
But their strokes are not to be confused with the strokes Freddy Bosquet is using, and Gary Hall used -- with much success. The strokes of Freddy and Gary stay straight arm through the catch and for the most part through the pull, compared to the strokes of Janet and Inge who were straight arm on the recovery but bent arm high elbow underwater.
Muscular men have an easier time keeping the "straight arm" going all the way through the pull, while most women don't have the sort of strength to do that -- so they get the benefit of the hip snap and the easy swinging recovery, but they don't have to put Umph into the first part of the stroke as much as the men which is one way to screw up a shoulder.
It's definetely a speed stroke when you're going straight arm underwater.
“a great article i dug up in november about straight arm free technique
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3871/is_200407/ai_n9418290/”
“Bowman and Phelps kept underwater dolphin a secret? Wow. What a ridiculous statement. Re-inventing swimming? Apparently you've never heard of David Berkoff who revolutionized underwater kicking in the 1980's? Bowman and Phelps kept UW a secret. HAHAHAHAHAH!”
Thanks for all the work you put into this great site.
“The reason Phelps was able to blow away the world with the underwater dolphin kick was because Bowman and himself kept it a secret. If Phelps/Bowman had been blabbing about it the whole way, people would have caught on. If you had the chance to be the best in world by re-inventing swimming, would you take it?”
Thanks Brett!
“The Straight arm that Brett is talking about is the underwater pull correct? Not so much the recovery, as has been the ideas in the past. I understand that Fred B uses a more straight arm recovery, but it is to enhance his straight arm underwater pull. Cielo uses a classic recovery to get into his under water pull, correct? And does this use more energy so we see it more in sprints as opposed to the 200 and up where a high elbow is a little more efficient over long distances?”
You are also correct with Fred and Cielo's recovery.
My assumption would be that it requires more energy when done correctly because of the amount of water trying to be held through the whole stroke. The high elbow is more efficient with longer races is because it does not require as much power. That is the comparison between power and efficiency because in the long run when the power runs out so does the efficiency.
I meant Bob's technical vids with his swimmers not his interviews solo. I did hours of research on the web and didn't find anything consistent outside the official DVD releases, but I could be uneducated at googling too. Link me to the information you mentioned. I'd be more than elated to see it!!
“If you had the chance to be the best in world by re-inventing swimming, would you take it?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43MiyKNMmok
But to answer your question, Tristan. Oh yeah I would!!! ;)
Of course, the big secrecy surrounding the "We" Golden Team (Michael rarely uses "I" when it comes to talk technique and strategies) was a big part in their unprecedented planetary success. I only regret that we never find anything on Floswimming or anywhere else btw, featuring Bowman outside his interviews. I know he isn't into computers and blogging, but a little kick set or drill vid for the fans never compromised anyone.. but I could be wrong.
"Lets be honest here underwater kicking was not a secret. Bob Bowman and Michael did nothing innovative with the underwater kick, rather, they only perfected it. Bob Gillet and Misty Hyman were the first to truly utilize the effects of the underwater kick on an international stage"
Rick Carey had a great underwater dolphin kick and David Berkoff and Joe Bernal are the reason why the 15 meter rule was instituted. Berkoff was swimming 100 back at 70 meters underwater. Gillet and Hyman tweaked it to a side kick.
Just giving credit where it is due.
Michael is a tremendous athlete (with serious natural talent and a strong work ethic) that approaches races in innovative ways (i.e. staying underwater longer than most), but it had been done before by several other swimmers.
Thanks
“Alright, alright. I won't complain about sound quality and "offend" Schmoka, Peter and The Dawg again, because yes, these Hawke talks are great. And his generosity is priceless.
Too bad coach of "american super star who has recently decided to focus on some sprint free events" isn't willing to share his own insights on new stroke FOR FREE. Just saying.”
“Alright, alright. I won't complain about sound quality and "offend" Schmoka, Peter and The Dawg again, because yes, these Hawke talks are great. And his generosity is priceless.
Too bad coach of "american super star who has recently decided to focus on some sprint free events" isn't willing to share his own insights on new stroke FOR FREE. Just saying.”
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3871/is_200407/ai_n9418290/
Too bad coach of "american super star who has recently decided to focus on some sprint free events" isn't willing to share his own insights on new stroke FOR FREE. Just saying.