As a world-class coach, Nate’s philosophy and approach to training swimmers aligns perfectly with Tide Swim Team’s mission to “Develop personal excellence for each member of our team, foremost in… + See More +
As a world-class coach, Nate’s philosophy and approach to training swimmers aligns perfectly with Tide Swim Team’s mission to “Develop personal excellence for each member of our team, foremost in… + See More
- See Less - As a world-class coach, Nate’s philosophy and approach to training swimmers aligns perfectly with Tide Swim Team’s mission to “Develop personal excellence for each member of our team, foremost in swimming, but also in life.” Boyle’s philosophy is to create an environment that encourages setting and achieving short and long-term goals, a positive atmosphere of teamwork and a model where every coach and swimmer can achieve success. Prior to joining TIDE, Boyle assisted David Marsh at the Mecklenburg Aquatic Club Center of Excellence. The highly successful program reached new heights under Marsh's leadership as three athletes qualified to compete at the 2008 Beijing Olympics that has now produced two gold medals and one epic world record. In addition to his work with SwimMAC, Boyle also served as an assistant coach at Davidson College where the women's team won a conference title and the combined squad claimed 18 new team records. Before arriving in the Charlotte area he served as the USA Swimming National Team Physiology Coordinator, assisting National Team coaches and athletes with lactate and race analysis feedback and supporting research efforts into supplemental oxygen and force production with Auburn University Kinesiology professors David Pascoe and Wendi Weimar. While pursuing a M.S. in Exercise Science at his alma mater, Boyle, alongside of Bryan Karkoska, coached a group of professional athletes that included a 2004 Olympic gold medalist who became the third-fastest American ever in the 100-meter breaststroke. As a competitive swimmer himself, Nate was an NCAA Division I All-American and USA National finalist as a member of Auburn University's 1999 NCAA Championship Team. In addition, he represented the United States as a National Team member at the Pan American Games that same year. His accomplishments as an athlete also include Olympic Trials qualification standards in 2000 and 2004. Boyle received his B.A. in political science from Auburn University. Nate, his wife Amanda, and their son Bear are excited to join the Hampton Roads community.
I think what Nate said is right if you watch the vid on you tube of phelps, especially the last angle where the camera is half in/out of the water he has finished his breath at the same time the first quarter of the stroke is done. Also dont forget he is probably not going 100% max in the video so his timing would be expected to speed up slightly so any pause at the front would go. On similar lines if you leave your hand out the front whilst taking a breath this would cause a big dead spot in ur stroke.
garrett I think it is pretty clear that its a bit easier to breathe before the stroke is initiated (before the catch) than it is trying to breathe late and maintain the catch through the breathe without crossing over or dropping the elbow..especially for the majority of senior swimmers that all this is geared to
Is it just me or are the videos loading slowly, i have high speed internet, duo core processor, and i've just run a virus check and nothing seems to be wrong. Did Floswimming change into a new video making system, or something do the with the setup of their videos? A couple weeks ago i loaded videos just fine. I did find this video pretty artistic nun the less.
ballzz said: “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax77_hHq9Dc
thorpe, phelps watch them all the head is back down before the stroke is initiated and the head rotation is separate from the body”
Yeah Thorpe and Phelps have amazing timing, and some unique physical attributes that let them breath like that. But does that mean everyone is capable of it? Some would argue that if everyone was capable of the mechanics of Thorpe and Phelps, then they wouldn't be Thorpe and Phelps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax77_hHq9Dc
thorpe, phelps watch them all the head is back down before the stroke is initiated and the head rotation is separate from the body
I understand his point about body position, however it is hard at early ages with many kids who are growing or don't have that body awareness yet (or will neverl) to do this in free swimming. Work with a snorkel give you time to watch and feel where your hands/arms are during your swimming, then applying breathing work may come easier. Getting your head back down seems to ensure alignment and your energies going forward. Plus, it is easier to slow a breath down than speed it up, so going for the extreme and backing down will be easier if learned early. I have seen Cielo do this pretty well. Haven't watched video of Sullivan lately but I imagine his breath is pretty efficient.
As Garrett said, getting kids (and coaches especially) to think about this is crucial. As a former terrible breaststroker (still terrible, just don't swim it anymore) I am always trying to find different ways to understand and describe how this freak-o-nature stroke actually works to my swimmers.
DouggieBean said: “Am I missing something with this? This all seems normal and "obvious". Who doesn't think this?”
I think where this differs from some of the other ideas out there is in the breath of the freestyle stroke. Some coaches want the head rotating separate of the body making sure that it is back down before the stroke is initiated. Nate likes the stroke initiated while the head is rotated out because of the body position that it sets up. Either way, its always good to get swimmers thinking about why they set up their stroke the way they do.
I dont agree with his breaststroke idea. It is very old school to think you initiate the catch/pull and bringing back the heels at the same time. This results in the classic "throw yourself forward and simultaneously kick back" breaststroke timing
if you look at any of the best breaststrokers you'll find that they only start retracting their heals once they've completed their pull and are already throwing their hands forward, that way their kick is initiated after their hands are stretched out in front them when the kick propulsion begins.
The best swimmers in the world have one thing in common...proper timing...you should remind your swimmers EVERYDAY about this type of information. It never gets old....
i also agree with douggie. definitely not bad technical advice, but just nothing revolutionary. i think every swimmer has learned this stuff from the time the were an age grouper
Nate Boyle draws up his ideal timing for the freestyle breath and breastroke kick recovery. As well as the hand position that goes along with those. May 31, 2009
How To Get Through The Slow Parts Of The Stroke
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax77_hHq9Dc
thorpe, phelps watch them all the head is back down before the stroke is initiated and the head rotation is separate from the body”
thorpe, phelps watch them all the head is back down before the stroke is initiated and the head rotation is separate from the body
As Garrett said, getting kids (and coaches especially) to think about this is crucial. As a former terrible breaststroker (still terrible, just don't swim it anymore) I am always trying to find different ways to understand and describe how this freak-o-nature stroke actually works to my swimmers.
“Am I missing something with this? This all seems normal and "obvious". Who doesn't think this?”
if you look at any of the best breaststrokers you'll find that they only start retracting their heals once they've completed their pull and are already throwing their hands forward, that way their kick is initiated after their hands are stretched out in front them when the kick propulsion begins.